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В нашем центре проводятся неврологические инструментальные исследования по ультразвуковой, функциональной диагностике и медицинской реабилитации в дневном стационаре и в амбулаторных условиях. Медицинская реабилитация включает в себя консультации лечащего врача – невролога, консультации других узких специалистов по показаниям – ортопеда, мануального терапевта, рефлексотерапевта, врача ЛФК, логопеда-психолога, инструментальные исследования и комплекс реабилитационных процедур – занятий ЛФК, массажа, мануальной терапии, физиотерапии, занятий с логопедом. Все детские поликлиники города Ростова-на-Дону и Ростовской области уведомлены о порядке проведения медицинской реабилитации. Если доктор Вашей детской поликлиники направил Вашего ребенка в МЦ «Авиценна» только на массажи, значит он не владеет информацией о порядке медицинской реабилитации. Следовательно, часть вопросов Вашего отзыва Вы должны адресовать в свою поликлинику. Ежегодно в МЦ «Авиценна» проходят обследование и лечение более 5 тысяч детей преимущественно раннего возраста. Надо понимать, что учитывать режим дня каждого ребенка, семейные обстоятельства \nи пожелания нереально. После формирования маршрутного листа прохождения процедур в назначенное время наши специалисты ожидали Вашего ребенка, но т.к. вы не приходили, они вынужденно простаивали. В соответствии с Правилами внутреннего распорядка, утвержденными в МЦ «Авиценна», при неявке пациента на прием, процедуры в течение двух дней, талон амбулаторного пациента закрывается неявкой и сдается вместе с направлением в страховую медицинскую организацию. \nПовторный прием возможен только при наличии нового направления. По поводу Ваших замечаний о помещении центра (шкафа для одежды, лестницы), мы уже отвечали. 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Мне было не очень удобно, т. к. мы уже были записаны к специалистам в других медцентрах, да ещё и начинать с пятницы, о чем я сообщила звонившей. Но меня уговорили сославшись, на то, что ребенок маленький и может не вылежать. Сказали, что вы попробуйте, если нет, то пойдёте по записи в сентябре, а время будем подбирать под ваше расписание. А потом начался \"бардак\"! Записывают на одно время, на следующий день другая звонит называет другое, через какое-то время ещё одна называет совсем другое не стыкующееся с нашим посещением других врачей и режимом ребёнка. Я сказала, что будем ходить на процедуры, как были записаны ранее в сентябре. На, что мне ответили, что вас там уже вычеркнули, но вы можете записаться, когда освободитесь. НО! Когда я пришла всё-таки записаться на процедуры мне заявили, что наша карточка закрыта. И теперь надо заново получать направления, заново проходить обследования и т. д... .! Якобы срок направления закончился. Бред! Срок направления действителен на момент первого обращения! Пыталась найти руководителя или компетентное лицо Авицены. Не возможно! Контактов нет. Звонила по общему номеру, соединили с кем-то не представившемся. Сказала, что выяснят и мне перезвонят. Прошла неделя, никто так и не позвонил. \nОбратилась в страховую компанию проконсультироваться о правомерности их действий. Мне подтвердили мою правоту, сказали, что очень много жалоб на этот медцентр и попросили составить письменную жалобу. Чем я и займусь. \nНаш случай не единичен. Лично знаю ещё 2х мамочек, которые с детьми прошли растянутые обследования, а процедуры нет, по той же причине. Якобы прошел срок направления. \nВ целом впечатление осталось крайне негативное! Ощущение, что это торговая палатка с менеджерами, главная цель, которых побольше продать. А сам результат не важен. Организация процесса слабая. Работники предоставляют разную информацию. Или они не информированы, или не налажено сам процесс. Один одно говорит, другой совсем другое. Спросить не с кого. В любом случае, это большой минус руководству. Первый раз прождали в очередях 45 минут. Помешение маленькое. Все время была в страхе, что ребенок или прибьёт себе руки дверями огромного шкафа купе или свалится с лестницы, выход на которую ничем не ограничен. Коляску оставить можно только на улице, не больше 2х. Охраны нет. Бахилы платно. Уровень некоторых врачей тоже вызывает вопросы, иногда даже удивление. \nИз положительного- только врач УЗИ и ортопед. \nДОПОЛНЯЮ свой отзыв после официального ответа! \nВидимо тот, кто его составлял не внимательно читал мой отзыв.\nВыше, я описывала, как связывалась с руководством. Оочень долго дощванивалась, пока меня соединили. К сожалению не спросила фамилию. На моё обращение мне пообещали разобраться и перезвонить. С этого момента до написания отзыва прошёл МЕСЯЦ!!!! Звонка не было! Это к слову о потраченное времени. \nТем самым, вы сами вынудили меня написать развёрнутый отзыв, чтобы получить хоть какой-то ответ. \nО том, что мы якобы не посещали в назначенное время, я тоже подробно описывала выше. \nОстальное не хочу даже комментировать. \nСудя по всему вы предпочли потратить время на составление данного ответа, вместо того, чтобы вовремя разобраться в сложившейся ситуации.","fullText":"","textLanguage":"RU","textTranslations":{"TR":"Bu tıp merkezinde rehabilitasyona girmeye çalıştılar. Tam olarak \"Deniyorlardı\". Çünkü prosedürlerin kendileri hiç alınmadı.\n1 yaşında çocuğun kliniğinde rutin dispanserizasyondan geçtikten sonra, ayrıca ihtiyacımız olan ek muayenelerden geçtikten sonra nörolog masaj yapılmasını önerdi. Kazak caddesi'ndeki Avicena'ya yön istedim, çünkü yakınlarda yaşıyoruz.\nBu yöne Haziran ayında döndük. Doktorun ilk randevusu Temmuz ayındaydı. Halihazırda mevcut verilere rağmen, 5 doktor daha geçmemiz ve 1'i ücretli olmak üzere 5 muayene daha yapmamıza izin verildi. Bütün bunlar neredeyse 2 ay sürdü.Ya tatilden birini bekliyorduk, sonra kayıt yoktu. Sonuç olarak, prosedürler Eylül ortasına planlanarak zamanı kabul ettiler. Sonra bir titreme başladı! Ağustos ayının sonunda merkezden Ağustos ayına ertelenmeyi teklif eden bir telefon geldi. Benim için pek uygun değildi, çünkü diğer tıp merkezlerindeki uzmanlara zaten kayıtlıydık ve hatta arayana bildirdiğim Cuma gününden başlıyorduk. Ama çocuğun küçük olduğu ve uzanmayabileceği gerçeğine atıfta bulunarak beni ikna ettiler. Denemeniz gerektiğini söylediler, değilse Eylül ayında kayıtlara geçeceksiniz ve zamanınızı programınıza göre ayarlayacağız. Ve sonra \"karışıklık\" başladı! Bir an için kayıt yapıyorlar, ertesi gün diğeri başka birini arıyor, bir süre sonra diğeri diğer doktorları ziyaretimize ve çocuğun rejimine katılmayan tamamen farklı bir çağrı yapıyor. 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