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Наши врачи искренне заинтересованы в здоровье пациента. Если вам снова потребуется помощь – ждём вас!\n\nС уважением, сеть стоматологических клиник Зуб.ру","id":"KUWH1ds5NIZhG31yA750ep8uefiGsF"}],"moderated":true,"time":"22 мая","text":"Сегодня была на гигиене полости рта в Зуб.ру — и хочу поделиться!\nЯ редко пишу про стоматологию, но тут прям приятно удивилась.\nВрач-гигиенист оказалась суперпрофессионалом:\n— показала, где я недочищаю зубы (с помощью индикатора налёта — реально наглядно!),\n— подробно объяснила, как пользоваться зубной нитью,\n— как правильно держать щётку и какие зоны чаще всего мы пропускаем,\n— и порекомендовала средства, которые действительно подойдут мне.\nВыходишь не просто с чистыми зубами, а с пониманием, как сохранить результат.\nТакая гигиена — не просто «почистили и забыли», а прям мини-обучение по уходу. Очень круто, честно!","fullText":"","textLanguage":"RU","textTranslations":{"TR":"Bugün dişte ağız hijyeni içindeydim.ru - ve paylaşmak istiyorum!\nNadiren diş hekimliği hakkında yazıyorum ama burada hoş bir şekilde şaşırdım.\nHijyenist doktorun süper profesyonel olduğu ortaya çıktı:\n- Dişlerimi nerede temizlediğimi gösterdim (plak göstergesini kullanarak - gerçekten görsel olarak!),\n- diş ipinin nasıl kullanılacağını ayrıntılı olarak açıkladım,\n- Fırçayı doğru şekilde nasıl tutabiliriz ve en sık hangi bölgeleri kaçırıyoruz,\n- ve bana gerçekten uygun olan araçları tavsiye ettim.\nSadece temiz dişlerle değil, sonucun nasıl korunacağını anlayarak çıkıyorsunuz.\nBu hijyen sadece «temizlediler ve unuttular» değil, aynı zamanda doğrudan mini bakım eğitimidir. 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Сделаем так, чтобы в дальнейшем посещение клиники было для вас комфортным.\n\nС уважением, сеть стоматологических клиник Зуб.ру","id":"hQEZGS2M1yeHvKVZKQ0UjlJcHB6hdd8G"}],"moderated":true,"time":"9 апреля","text":"О ДМС и работе с пациентами:\nПосле первого посещения (24.02.) остались смешанные чувства.\nНа приеме врач сообщил, что кариес 15го зуба на трех поверхностях, что-то там больше 50% и это не страховой случай. Согласился вылечить, оплатил самостоятельно. Во время лечения 15го зуба обнаружился кариес на 16м, врач сказал, что это уже страховой случай. Приехал домой, зашел в приложение клиники, открыл заключение и вижу по двум зубам одинаковый диагноз глубокий кариес и тут в голове пролетел вопрос, \"Тогда почему я заплатил за один из них?\", пошел читать условия по своему полису ДМС, вычитал, что глубокий кариес входит в страховку и лечение зуба с разрушением более 50% при наличии гарантии от врача (от года).\nПри этом при записи на прием сотрудники единого колл центра попросили принести с собой паспорт и полис, но при посещении клиники полис так и не попросили, возможно он отобразился в электронном виде после проверки паспорта. В клинику у меня прямой доступ, согласования или гарантийного письма от страховой не требуется. \n\nНаписал в страховую, там запросили документы для анализа ситуации: полное заключение врача с указанием жалоб, данных анамнеза и осмотра, протокол приема с указанием проведенного лечения. Обратился с данным запросом в клинику, мне сообщили что данную информацию они предоставляют физическим лицам по письменному запросу в течение 10 рабочих дней. В итогу страховая самостоятельно запросила необходимые документы. Также я оставил письменное обращение главному врачу клиники через форму на сайте.\n25го вечером со мной связалась главный врач клиники - Зарина Робертовна, я рассказал всю ситуацию. Главврач сообщила, что уже отправила документы в страховую плюс снимок и теперь ожидаем решение страховой. \nСтраховая проверила документы и направила гарантийное письмо в клинику, о чем я сообщил главврачу.\n27го со мной связался администратор из клиники и пригласила для оформления возврата. 28го посетил клинику для оформления возврата, теперь остается ждать когда банк обработает операцию.\nСпасибо Зарине Робертовне за вовлеченную работу по моему вопросу.\n\nУ разных работодателей заключены разные договоры со страховыми, у кого-то может быть расширенная стоматология у кого-то нет. Тут я не знаю, клиника должна это учитывать в своей работе с пациентами или страховая должна прорабатывать подобные моменты с клиникой, а может пациент сам должен разбираться в тонкостях. Я не думал, что когда-то задамся вопросом \"А точно ли это не страховой случай?\" направляясь в клинику с прямым доступом.\n\nТакже для меня показалось странным, что после оплаты услуг выдается лишь чек, как уже отмечал выше акт выполненных работ или протокол выдается только по письменному заявлению.\n\nУ меня не сложилось впечатления, что меня хотят обмануть или что-то втюхать, вот так получилось, да неприятно, но меня не бросили и не послали. Ситуацию проработали и решили.\nДля уменьшения количества подобных случаев клинике необходимо проработать свое взаимодействие со страховыми компаниями и понимать, что условия у пациентов могут отличаться, либо предупреждать об этом пациентов, например, что клиника не видит условия по расширенной страховке. Или иным способом проработать, т.к. я вижу по отзывам, что я не один такой, который пришел лечиться по ДМС, а в итоге отдал свои деньги, но каждый кейс может быть уникален и в некоторых случаях у пациентов действительно мог быть не страховой случай.\n\n\nПрием начался вовремя.\nВрач не показывал этапы своей работы, когда открыл зуб - не показал кариес, после зачистки кариеса не показал результат, после установки пломбы не показал результат, с инструментами во рту было трудно попросить о чем-то, в следующий раз видимо буду руку поднимать или заранее проговаривать такие нюансы, что я хочу видеть каждый этап лечения. Я привык к иному взаимодействию между врачом и пациентом, когда врач подробно показывает поэтапно что происходит с зубом во время лечения.\nОтмечу скорость работы, около 30-40 минут занял приём, это и разговор, снимок, лечение, хорошо это или плохо, не знаю :)\nКачество работы пока не могу оценить, т.к. прошло совсем мало времени. Пломба не мешается, была чуть шершавой, но за несколько дней либо привык, либо она чуть сгладилась. Буду надеяться, что всё будет хорошо.\nЛечение проходило безболезненно и без дискомфорта.\n\nСоветы для пациентов: \nДля экономии вашего времени и нервов изучайте условия ДМС заранее чтобы иметь понимание до приема на что вы можете рассчитывать по своему полису и проговаривайте условия в регистратуре и врачу.\nЕсли у вас есть сомнения, запросите предварительный план лечения и согласуйте его со страховой и только после этого идите на лечение.\n\n\nО приложении:\nМне не нравится долгая анимация логотипов при входе в приложение.\n\n\nО звонках с подтверждением записи:\nЯ бы оставил смс оповещение со ссылкой на сайт с выбором: 1 - подтвердить запись, 2 - отменить/перенести запись (с вами свяжется оператор). Сейчас это и смс напоминание и обзвон ботом и на разговор с ботом уходит до минуты, т.к. он и спросит удобно ли тебе говорить, если не удобно я не возьму трубку. И расскажет про местоположение клиники.","fullText":"","textLanguage":"RU","textTranslations":{"TR":"DMS ve hastalarla çalışma hakkında:\nİlk ziyaretten sonra (02/24.) karışık duygular kaldı.\nRandevuda doktor, üç yüzeyde 15. dişin çürüğünün olduğunu, orada% 50'den fazla bir şey olduğunu ve bunun sigortalı bir durum olmadığını söyledi. İyileşmeyi kabul ettim, kendi başıma ödedim. 15inci dişin tedavisi sırasında 16 m'de çürükler ortaya çıktı, doktor bunun zaten sigortalı bir durum olduğunu söyledi. Eve geldim, kliniğin ekine gittim, görüşümü açtım ve iki dişten derin çürüklerin aynı teşhisini görüyorum ve sonra kafamda bir soru uçup gitti, \"Öyleyse neden onlardan birinin parasını ödedim?\", DMS poliçemdeki koşulları okumaya gittim, doktordan (bir yıldan itibaren) garanti varsa, dişin sigortasına ve tedavisine% 50'den fazla yıkımla derin çürüklerin dahil olduğunu okudum.\nAynı zamanda, randevu alırken, tek çağrı merkezinin çalışanlarından yanlarında pasaport ve politika getirmelerini istediler, ancak kliniği ziyaret ederken poliçeyi hiç istemediler, pasaportu kontrol ettikten sonra elektronik ortamda görüntülenmiş olabilir. Kliniğe doğrudan erişimim var, sigortadan onay veya garanti mektubu gerekli değil. \n\nSigortacıya yazdım, durumu analiz etmek için belgeler talep ettiler: şikayetleri gösteren doktorun tam görüşü, tarih ve muayene verileri, yapılan tedaviyi gösteren kabul protokolü. Bu talebi kliniğe götürdüm, bu bilgileri 10 iş günü içinde yazılı talep üzerine bireylere sağladıkları söylendi. Sonuç olarak, sigorta şirketi gerekli belgeleri bağımsız olarak talep etti. Ayrıca web sitesindeki form aracılığıyla kliniğin baş doktoruna yazılı bir çağrı bıraktım.\nAkşam 25'inde kliniğin baş doktoru Zarina Robertovna benimle temasa geçti, tüm durumu anlattım. Başhekim, belgeleri zaten sigortaya artı bir anlık görüntüye gönderdiğini ve şimdi sigortanın kararını beklediğimizi söyledi. \nSigortacı belgeleri kontrol etti ve başhekime bildirdiğim kliniğe bir garanti mektubu gönderdi.\n27inci klinikten bir resepsiyonist benimle temasa geçti ve beni iade talebinde bulunmaya davet etti. 28inci iade kaydı için kliniği ziyaret etti, şimdi bankanın işlemi işlemesini beklemeye devam ediyor.\nSorumdaki ilgili çalışmaları için Zarina Robertovna'ya teşekkür ederim.\n\nFarklı işverenlerin sigortalılarla farklı sözleşmeleri vardır, bazılarının diş hekimliği geliştirmemiş olabilir. Burada bilmiyorum, kliniğin hastalarla yaptığı çalışmalarda bunu göz önünde bulundurması gerekiyor mu yoksa sigortacının klinikle bu tür anlarla uğraşması gerekiyor mu, yoksa belki hastanın kendisinin karmaşıklıkları anlaması gerekiyor. Bir gün kendime \"Bu kesinlikle sigortalı bir durum değil mi?\" Diye soracağımı düşünmemiştim.\" Doğrudan erişimi olan bir kliniğe giderken.\n\nAyrıca, hizmetler için ödeme yapıldıktan sonra, yukarıda belirtildiği gibi, yalnızca bir çek verilmesi veya protokolün yalnızca yazılı bir başvuru üzerine düzenlenmesi bana garip geldi.\n\nBeni aldatmak ya da bir şeyi koklamak istedikleri izlenimine kapılmadım, böyle oldu, ama hoş değil, ama terk edilmedim ya da gönderilmedim. Durum üzerinde çalıştık ve karar verdik.\nBu tür vakaların sayısını azaltmak için kliniğin sigorta şirketleriyle olan etkileşimini çalışması ve hastaların koşullarının farklı olabileceğini anlaması veya hastaları bu konuda uyarması gerekir, örneğin kliniğin genişletilmiş sigorta için koşulları görmediği. Ya da başka bir şekilde çalışmak, çünkü incelemelerden, DMS için tedavi görmeye gelen tek kişi olmadığımı görüyorum, ancak sonunda paramı verdim, ancak her vaka benzersiz olabilir ve bazı durumlarda hastaların gerçekten sigortalı bir vakası olmayabilir.\n\n\nResepsiyon zamanında başladı.\nDoktor dişini açtığında işinin aşamalarını göstermedi - çürük göstermedi, çürüğü temizledikten sonra sonucu göstermedi, dolguyu taktıktan sonra sonucu göstermedi, ağzımdaki aletlerle bir şey istemek zordu, bir dahaki sefere görünüşe göre elimi kaldıracağım veya önceden böyle nüanslar söyleyeceğim, tedavinin her aşamasını görmek istiyorum. Doktor tedavi sırasında dişe neler olduğunu aşamalar halinde ayrıntılı olarak gösterdiğinde doktor ve hasta arasındaki farklı etkileşime alışkınım.\nİşin hızına dikkat edeceğim, yaklaşık 30-40 dakika resepsiyon aldım, bu bir konuşma, anlık görüntü, tedavi, iyi ya da kötü, bilmiyorum :)\nİşin kalitesini henüz tahmin edemiyorum, çünkü çok az zaman geçti. Mühür rahatsız olmuyor, biraz pürüzlüydü ama birkaç gün içinde ya alıştım ya da biraz yumuşadı. Umarım her şey yoluna girer.\nTedavi ağrısızdı ve rahatsızlıksızdı.\n\nHastalar için ipuçları: \nZamandan ve sinirlerden tasarruf etmek için, resepsiyondan önce poliçenize güvenebileceğiniz bir anlayışa sahip olmak için dms'nin koşullarını önceden inceleyin ve kayıtta ve doktordaki koşulları söyleyin.\nŞüpheleriniz varsa, bir ön tedavi planı isteyin ve bunu sigortayla koordine edin ve ancak bundan sonra tedaviye gidin.\n\n\nUygulama hakkında:\nUygulamaya giriş yaparken logoların uzun animasyonunu sevmiyorum.\n\n\nKayıt onayı ile yapılan aramalar hakkında:\nSiteye bir bağlantı içeren bir sms uyarısı bırakırdım: 1 - kaydı onaylayın, 2 - kaydı iptal edin / aktarın (operatör sizinle iletişime geçecektir). Şimdi bu bir sms hatırlatıcısı ve bot tarafından aranıyor ve botla konuşmak bir dakikaya kadar sürüyor, çünkü o sizin için uygun olup olmadığını soracak, eğer uygun değilse telefonu açmayacağım. Ve size kliniğin yerini anlatacak."}},{"id":"9c1L_VeGJOO0ChLl_IOQE-dmoEX06j","object":{"id":"/sprav/1804769392"},"author":{"name":"Elizabeth L.","avatarId":"63032/0r-3","url":"//reviews.yandex.ru/user/9cnw7mchvzw2vvjgp8kftjyndc?utm_source=org&main_tab=org","level":"Знаток города 6 уровня","verified":false,"linkTheme":"black","scoreQuestion":"","publicId":"9cnw7mchvzw2vvjgp8kftjyndc","reviewsCount":14},"rating":{"newDesign":true,"max":5,"val":1},"photos":[],"comments":[{"object":{"id":"/sprav/1804769392"},"time":1749212053701,"type":"/ugc/comment","meta":{"blocked":false,"moderated":true},"text":"Добрый день! Благодарим вас за отзыв.\n\nНам очень важно мнение наших пациентов!\nДля выяснения всех обстоятельств, пожалуйста, напишите письмо на наш официальный электронный адрес kontrol@zub.ru с указанием ваших ФИО и полным описании всей ситуации. \nМы обязательно разберёмся в данном вопросе!\n\nС уважением, сеть стоматологических клиник Зуб.ру","id":"lpSdakFJNcFasE4UbBo5w8iRhAuAds4kU"}],"moderated":true,"time":"4 июня","text":"вообще, клиника замечательная. \nбыла для меня до тех пор, пока я не начала делать коронку. мало того, что за 7 месяцев её так мне и не поставили (начали 31.07.2024). так ещё и потеряли слепки. но это тоже только ПОЛОВИНА БЕДЫ\nмне обещали позвонить, когда найдут слепки или не найдут и пригласят их переделать. это было в середине февраля. сейчас апрель, звонка так и не было :))\nвот так и забила клиника на это всё. главное пообещать :)\n\nдумайте сами, решайте сами (:\n\n\nUPD: связались, чтобы записать меня к ортопеду. это я могла сделать и самостоятельно через приложение. ничего не объяснили, элементарно не принесли даже извинения за то, что слепки были утеряны и лечение затянулось.\nспрашивала по указанной почте о возможных скидках/бонусах, но элементарно игнорируют.","fullText":"","textLanguage":"RU","textTranslations":{"TR":"genel olarak, klinik harika. \nTaç yapmaya başlayana kadar benim içindi. Sadece bu da değil, 7 ayda bana bu şekilde teslim etmediler (31.07.2024'e başladılar). Böylece kalıplarını da kaybettiler. ama bu aynı zamanda SORUNUN sadece YARISI\nKalıpları bulduklarında veya bulamadıklarında beni arayacaklarına söz verdiler ve onları yeniden yapmaya davet ettiler. Bu Şubat ortasındaydı. şimdi Nisan, hiç çağrı olmadı :))\nBöylece klinik her şeyi bu şekilde doldurdu. asıl şey söz vermektir :)\n\nkendiniz düşünün, kendiniz karar verin (:\n\n\nUPD: Beni ortopediste kaydettirmek için iletişime geçtik. Bunu uygulama aracılığıyla kendi başıma da yapabilirim. 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Мы будем благодарны, если Вы напишите нам на kontrol@zub.ru и опишите ситуацию, указав Ваши контактные данные. Специалисты службы сервиса постараются разобраться с данной проблемой! Заранее спасибо!\n","id":"xhj2j5vrzDIXnOcVL9fQXMNRYp-XBfJja"}],"moderated":true,"time":"18 февраля","text":"Если в вашем ДМСе есть и другие стоматолтгические клиники, записывайтесь сразу туда, не тратьте время на Зуб.ру. Я обратилась в эту клинику с острой болью в восьмерке, которая плюс ко всему еще и разрушалась. Не заглядывая в рот, врач тут же отправила на панорамный снимок и сразу же заявила, что у меня неправильный прикус, его нужно исправлять брекетами. Где брекеты и где стоматолог-хирург? А далее начались прямые намеки, что ДМС не покроет удаление восьмерки. На мой вопрос как именно будет происходить удаление - получится ли зуб просто выдернуть или нужно будет распиливать и вынимать по частям, я получила ответ «не знаю, я детально его не смотрела, как пойдет». А зачем панорамный снимок, а зачем пациент в кресле, если даже проблемный зуб не удосужились посмотреть? \nВ общем единственная цель этой клиники - сделать все по полному прайсу и накинуть дополнительных опций сверху. \nЧисто визуально филиал на Смоленской похож на районную поликлинику. Персонал не грубый, но и никакой приветливости тоже нет. То же самое и с врачом, с которым мне довелось общаться. Отзыв на своем сайте они не публикуют, само собой, поэтому заранее прошу организацию не беспокоиться и на данный отзыв не отвечать.","fullText":"","textLanguage":"RU","textTranslations":{"TR":"Dms'nizde başka diş hekimliği klinikleri varsa, hemen oraya kaydolun, Dişinize zaman ayırmayın.ru. Bu kliniğe sekizde akut bir ağrı ile döndüm, bu da artı bir şekilde çöküyordu. Ağzıma bakmadan doktor hemen panoramik bir fotoğrafa gönderdi ve hemen yanlış ısırık aldığımı, diş telleriyle düzeltilmesi gerektiğini söyledi. Diş telleri nerede ve diş cerrahı nerede? Ve sonra dms'nin sekizin kaldırılmasını kapsamayacağına dair doğrudan ipuçları başladı. Çıkarmanın tam olarak nasıl gerçekleşeceği soruma - dişin basitçe çekilip çekilmeyeceği veya parçalara ayırıp çıkarmanız gerekip gerekmeyeceği sorusuna, «bilmiyorum, nasıl gideceğini ayrıntılı olarak görmedim» cevabını aldım. Peki neden panoramik bir fotoğraf çekelim, sorunlu dişi izlemek için zahmet etmeseler bile hasta neden sandalyede? \nGenel olarak, bu kliniğin tek amacı her şeyi tam fiyata yapmak ve üstüne ek seçenekler koymaktır. \nTamamen görsel olarak, Smolenskaya'daki şube bir bölge kliniğine benziyor. Personel kaba değildir, ancak misafirperverlik de yoktur. Aynı şey iletişim kurma şansım olan doktor için de geçerli. 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